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1:1 Belief vs Claims 1:2 Negative Impact Christianity Causes 1:3 Hasn't Christianity Fueled Good?

2:1 Why the Bible Is False 2:2 Failed Prophecies 2:3 False Historical Claims 2:4 Wrong About Nature 2:5 Contradictions

3:1 The Bible's Secrets 3:2 Ignored Words 3:3 Immoral God/Bible 3:4 History & Changes 3:5 Bible Stories Re-examined

4:1 We Are All Godless 4:2 God Doesn't Exist 4:3 Jesus Never Existed 4:4 Atheism, Humanism, & Morality

5:1 Lets Be Honest 5:2 Faith & Questions To Ask 5:3 What To Avoid (Apologetic Tactics)

6:1 Faith vs Science 6:2 Intelligent Design vs Evolution 6:3 Soul vs Cognitive Science 6:4 Old vs Young Earth

2:4 Wrong About Nature

The claims about nature contained in the Bible are identical to the false beliefs held by the men who wrote it. Ancient man in the Mediterranean area was convinced that the sky was blue and leaked water because it held a body of water identical to the sea and rain was caused by openings in the sky. They also believed the moon was a dim source light and that a flat earth was the center of the solar system. Based on limited knowledge and limited vantage points all of these beliefs made perfect sense. However, if the Bible was the inspired word of an all knowing god then it would not reflect these outdated assumptions about nature. It is clear that the knowledge provided by the Bible is limited by the extent of ancient man's knowledge and beliefs.

Big Blue Sky

If the Bible were true then there would be a giant body of water that's identical to the sea sitting above the heavens. Every time NASA sends a space shuttle to outerspace it would have to pass through a massive "sky-sea" before reaching outer space.

Genesis 1:6-10 "And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning-the second day."

Source Of Rain

If the Bible were true then rain would be caused and stopped by the opening and closing of windows in the sky. Today we know that rain is actually the result of a four stage process, called the Water Cycle, involving evaporation, condensation, precipitation, and collection.

Genesis 7:11-12 "...the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth ..."

Genesis 8:2 "...the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;"

The Moon

If the Bible were true then the moon would be a source of light like the sun, only dimmer. We now know that the moon only reflects light from the sun yet the Bible specifically says the moon is a "lesser light" and that the light belongs to the moon.

Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

Isaiah 13:10 "moon shall not cause her light to shine."

The Stationary Earth

If the Bible were true Earth would sit motionless in the center of our solar system. Our home planet would be held up by actual pillars and attached to a literal foundation. Again and again the Bible tells us that Earth is immovable, in a fixed position, and attached to a foundation upon pillars. The book of Joshua even tells a story based on this false "geocentric" belief where the sun and moon stop their orbit around Earth and stood motionless in the sky for a day.

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Earth's Foundation
A foundation is a base on which a structure rests upon. Only stationary objects have a foundation. Both Psalm and Job claim that Earth has a foundation.

Psalm 104:5 "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."

Job 38:6 "Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;"

Apologists claim the type of foundation the Bible refers to is "a beginning" in reference to the earth having a beginning, not a "literal foundation" that something is attached to. However, the Bible specifically says the foundation IS the type of foundation something is "fastened" to.

Pillars Holding Up Earth
The book of Samuel claims that God placed Earth upon a set of pillars and Job even tells us that these physical pillars tremble when the earth shakes.

1 Samuel 2:8 "...for the pillars of the earth are the LORD's, and he hath set the world upon them."

Job 9:6 "Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble."

Apologists say that since "pillars of the earth" is just a figure of speech everything the Bible says about the pillars should be discarded as a figure of speech also. It is true, "pillars of the earth" is a figure of speech in MODERN times but it was not in ancient times. The men who wrote the Bible, lived in that time, and who "God talked to" believed the earth was literally held up by pillars. Also the mention of these pillars are not written as a "figure of speech" in the context of the Bible.

Earth Does Not/Cannot Move
Not only does the Bible say that Earth sits stationary upon pillars, Psalms and 1 Chronicles claim that it can't even be moved.

Psalms 93:1 "The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."

Psalm 96:10 "Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved...."

Psalm 104:5 "Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever."

1 Chronicles 16:30 "Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved."

The Sun & Moon Stood Still
Joshua says the sun and moon stood still for a whole day. This is only plausible the sun and moon, in the story, are objects the orbit around Earth.

Joshua 10:13 "And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."

Apologists claim that Earth stood still making the sun appear to be the one that stood still. If Earth did halt its 1,000 MPH rotation everyone would have been killed and flown off of the face of the planet. This apologetic excuse also requires changing what the Bible actually says so it will sound true and overlooks that the Bible says the moon stood still too. A few others say that it is to be taken in a figurative sense but the book of Joshua does not read in a figurative manner.

The Flat Earth

The Bible constantly describes Earth as being a flat object just as the writers were convinced it was. The Bible claims that Earth has a top and a bottom, ends which can be grabbed on to, is shaped like a circle, and that people only live on the top side of it. All these stories are directly contrary to the real life scenario of a spherical planet and would only apply if the story placed such events in a flat earth scenario.

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Earth Is A Circle
The Bible claims that Earth is a circle which is a round but flat object.

Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens, I was there, When he drew a circle on the face of the deep."

Isaiah 40:22 "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And it’s inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."

Apologists claim that since a circle is round and a sphere is round then a circle is the same thing as a sphere. Could they be more dishonest? A circle is a flat round object and a sphere is a three dimensional object. A circle is not a sphere. A sphere also does not have top or bottom so God could not "sit above" a sphere but one could be above a flat round object like Isaiah states. Proverbs even says the circle [Earth] was drawn on the face of the deep [ocean] which perfectly describes Earth as a flat circular island sitting on top of the ocean like the men in ancient times, who wrote the Bible, imagined it.

"One Sided" Earth
The book of Daniel says the king saw a giant tree at the center of the earth. This story only works in a one-sided flat earth scenario since trees obviously would not exist in the center of a spherical earth. This tree was also said to be so tall that it could be seen all over the world. Again, this concept only works if the author is writing about a one-sided flat earth scenario. On a spherical earth it does not matter how tall or high up something is, it can't be seen by people on the other half of the planet. Matthew and Revelation also make claims of objects so high up that they can be seen by everyone in the world.

Daniel 4:10 "Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great. 11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth"

Matthew 4:8 "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;"

Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

Earth Has Physical Ends
The Bible claims that Earth has "ends." Since a spherical object has no ends these verses could only refer to flat round object. Job 11 says the earth's length can be measured from corner to corner yet spherical objects are measured using its radius or diameter, not its length like a flat object. Job 38 also claims that grabbing the physical ends of Earth and shaking it will cause the wicked to be shaken out of it.

Deuteronomy 13:7 "Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth"

Deuteronomy 28:49 "The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand"

Deuteronomy 28:64 "And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone."

Deuteronomy 33:17 "His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh."

Job 11:9 "The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea."

Job 38:13 "That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?"

Note: Although "ends of the Earth" is a figure of speech in modern times it was taken literally in ancient times when the Bible was written.

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CHAPTER 1
1:1 Belief vs Claims
1:2 Negative Impact Christianity Causes
1:3 Hasn't Christianity Fueled Good?

CHAPTER 2
2:1 Why the Bible Is False
2:2 Failed Prophecies
2:3 False Historical Claims
2:4 Wrong About Nature
2:5 Contradictions

CHAPTER 3
3:1 The Bible You Don't Know
3:2 Ignored Words
3:3 Immoral God/Bible
3:4 History & Changes
3:5 Bible Stories Re-examined

CHAPTER 4
4:1 We Are All Godless
4:2 God Doesn't Exist
4:3 Jesus Never Existed
4:4 Atheism, Humanism, & Morality

CHAPTER 5
5:1 Let's Be Honest
5:2 Faith & Questions To Ask
5:3 What To Avoid (Apologetic Tactics)

CHAPTER 6
6:1 Faith vs Science
6:2 Intelligent Design vs Evolution
6:3 Soul vs Cognitive Science
6:4 Old vs Young Earth

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